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Девочки, работаю буквально месяц на шугаринге, все на комплекс приходят. Клиенток было примерно 10 человек. Но тут ко мне пришла девочка с гипергидрозом (с ним справилась) и с очень низким болевым порогом! Она не может вытерпеть все сразу. Поэтому 1 зона — 1 день . Вчера сделали эпиляцию подмышек, сегодня ноги и начали бикини. Но на бикини она совсем не может вытерпеть даже 1-ю зону. Кожу натягиваю хорошо, талькую, пасту мягкую взяла даже с ее особенностью излишней потливости. Но она прям совсем не может вытерпеть даже нанесения пасты, волос 5мм, не больше. Помогите советом! Завтра придёт доделывать шугаринг глубокое бикини! Она прям рыдает и вся трясётся, такое впервые у меня. Девочку жалко очень. Она шугаринг делает впервые, всю жизнь бритва, волос толстый и корни там прям ух! Как облегчить ее состояние и сделать все минимально безболезненно для неё?
— Крем "Эмла", это местное обезболивающее средство, наносится заранее дома клиенткой, продаётся в аптеке, говорят, помогает. Так же можно выпить таблетку парацетамола, но думаю, от неё такого эффекта не будет.
— Но мне рассказывали (сама не проверяла), что кожа очень рыхлая становится после обезболивающего крема.
— Я таким девочкам наношу пасту не дорожкой, а небольшими "кружками". Обязательно нужно разговаривать (все клиентки отмечают, что с разговорами очень легко), а ещё до кучи можно включить музыку или телевизор. Также меня спасает "беготня" вокруг девочек. Т.е. я сделаю "верхушку" лобка с одной стороны, потом с другой, потом опять с другой чуть-чуть подойду и начну приближаться к "холмику". Как станет больно — ухожу на другую сторону, прошу положить ногу на бок и там уже работаю на внутренней поверхности бедра. Т.е. я никогда не работаю постоянно на одной стороне и на одном месте, я перехожу от места к месту.
А также у меня в арсенале LightFrost (анестетик крем для местного обезболивания). До конца боль не уберёт, но намного легче сделает! Ну, и пусть заранее выпьет 2-3 таблетки обезболивающего.
— Может, у неё дело к критическим дням идёт? В это время обычно намного больнее делать депиляцию. Уточните, если так, то пусть придёт после этих дней, болевые ощущения уменьшатся.
— Обезболивание кремом эмла или другие обезболивания. Но риск перепилинга выше. Кожа рыхлая будет.
И, действительно, может месячные вот-вот начнутся?
Коньяк в таких случаях помогает лучше всего. Расслабляет и разговорчивость клиента повышает. На болезненную часть 50 грамм очень хорошо хватает.
— Какие таблетки можно порекомендовать выпить перед процедурой для обезболивания при шугаринге глубокого бикини?
— Попробуйте пленочный воск. Небольшими участками убирайте. У меня на прошлой неделе была девочка. Рыженькая. Вся тряслась. До беременности сделала шугаринг у другого мастера, через два года решилась еще раз прийти. Я ее италваксом мужским почистила. И крем эмла нанесла. Осталась довольна.
— Я не понимаю, в чем проблема таким клиентам делать обезболивание?! Им никакого стресса, и Вам беспроблемная работа! Я всегда, если вижу, что девочка первый раз на шугаринге или боится сильно, предлагаю обезболить! Главное крем хороший для обезболивания кожи при эпиляции используйте, и будет Вам счастье.
— Задействуйте ее в процессе, чтобы она не лежала колбаской и не сосредотачивалась на ощущениях. Дайте ей перчатки, пусть вам помогает натягивать кожу, дайте ей задание, она переключится на него с пассивного ожидания боли. Это еще и психологический момент, вспомните себя, если вам больно, вам больше всего помогает, если вы к этому месту приложите руку.
— Я работаю с ЛайтДепом и все довольны! Единственный минус — это увеличение времени процедуры, т. к. крем необходимо наносить под пленку не менее, чем на 40 минут. Тогда он работает идеально, девочки не чувствуют ни нанесения пасты, ни срыва вообще, все отлично.
— Немножко помогает, без эмлы вообще не могу подмышки щипать, а с ней матом обхожусь. Ощущение как у стоматолога при лечении зуба с обезболиванием. Если крем не под пленку, то кожа не разрыхляется.
— Вообще, первый раз — всегда самый кошмар, его просто надо пережить. А так с девочками согласна, отличные советы. Крем для обезболивания при депиляции зоны бикини намазать, долго на одном месте не задерживаться, пусть она поможет кожу натянуть, можно коньячок для храбрости.
— У нас нет обезболивающих средств для кожи. Поэтому я советую старый способ — 50 грамм, не важно чего. Помогает, проверено!
— Эмла в аптеках встречается. Жирно нанести (весь тюбик 5 г) под пищевую плёнку и трусы сверху. Минут за 30 до процедуры надо. Поэтому или процедура дольше, или поболтать, или другие зоны сделать, или дома наносите.
— А какая может быть альтернатива? Ни эмлы, ни ее заменителей у нас нет, привозить — 150$ за тюбик. Нецелесообразно. Лидокаин под пленку — эффект нулевой. Или тогда остается перетерпеть.
— Про крема много говорят, что кожа рыхлая становится, я лидокаин спрей использую, у одной за 40 минут аж онемение идет.
— У меня девочка есть. Ее трясёт ужасно от стресса, соответственно, сильная влага. Стала пить пустырник за час до процедуры и все прекрасно, все проходит спокойно.
— Тогда только отвлекать остаётся. Других способов нет. На мой взгляд, от алкоголя больше проблем будет. Кто знает, как на клиента подействует? В жар бросит и потеть начнёт с удвоенной силой.
— Скажите, пусть выпьет таблетку за полчаса до процедуры — любое обезболивающее, которое помогает и расхвалите, что сразу намного меньше будет чувствоваться боль, легче перенесёт и все такое. Во время процедуры пшикайте на неё средство до и говорите, что это лидокаин, жидкое обезболивающее средство, слезы единорога от боли. Часто люди, которые плохо переносят боль, больше накручивают все это себе, должен сработать эффект плацебо. Это реально помогает. Убедите, что второй раз вообще почти чувствовать не будет, а на последующих процедурах будет спать. Также есть специальные мази обезболивающие. Может, стоит воспользоваться ими. Но процедура от этого может пострадать.
— Какой раз, понимаю что надо мед образование. Мастера с ума сходят. Вы не должны назначать препараты с обезболивающим эффектом, как правило, это НПВС. Вы знаете, сколько у этих лекарств противопоказаний?! В цивилизованных странах эти лекарства покупают только по рецепту!!
— Следуя Вашей логике нельзя в принципе никакие лекарства пить, потому что лечишь одно, а вредишь другому. И даже витамины. И я прекрасно знаю, что куда, кому и как. И не заставляю клиентов жрать таблетки пачками. От одной таблетки обезболивающего не случится ничего! Абсолютно!
— Я всех своих новеньких клиенток всегда предупреждаю по поводу обезболивания. Если они знают, что им будет больно, то пускай лучше перестрахуются и сами дома перед процедурой обезболятся. Я всегда обезболивание кремом эмла советую, она, как по мне, лучше всего справляется с этим делом.
— Проблема таких людей не в низком болевом пороге, а в расшатанной нервной системе. Обезболивающие не помогут. Надо за несколько дней до депиляции начать принимать успокоительное. Результат вас удивит.
— Предложите ей обезболивающий гель. Если не помогают таблетки, алкоголь не хотите. Оставьте Эмлу не на 40 минут, а на час сорок и будет норм.
— Скажу с позиции клиента, хожу на воск и не нарадуюсь, есть боль, но мгновенная и терпимая. Мастер разок предложила попробовать эпиляцию сахаром, это был ад. Я не знаю, как ещё можно назвать. Боль от тянущихся за сахаром волос невыносима, с горем пополам, проорав и сделав всего одну подмышку, я отказалась от такого удовольствия. Вторую делали воском. 2 мин и готово. Больше на сахарную эпиляцию ни за какие коврижки не соглашусь, хотя мастер уговаривает попробовать ещё раз.
— Посоветуйте ей купить анестетик, нанести дома, потом уже идти к вам, тогда неприятные ощущений сведутся к минимуму. Эмла очень хорошо действует, за час под пленкой дает прекрасный результат.
— Девочки, подскажите, чем вы обезболиваете перед процедурой? Слышала, что можно кремом эмла, лидокаин. Но их нужно наносить за час до процедуры непосредственно, тогда это должен делать клиент, не будет же он час лежать и ждать. Знаю мастеров, которые делают обезболивание прям перед процедурой, ждут 5 минут и начинают процедуру. Вопрос — что это за средство?
— Нет такого средства. Эффект плацебо, я сама на себе пробовала. Что с ним, что без. Но спокойнее.
— У макеа Леди есть такое средство, только толку 0! Это бизнес.
Знаю мастеров, наносят на интимную зону глубокого бикини, делают ноги, а потом шугаринг глубокого бикини, как раз полчаса час выходит.
— Та же эмла. Способ применения: нанести препарат на неповрежденную кожу слоем средней толщины под окклюзионную повязку (например, под пищевую пленку) на 20-30 минут. Удалить излишки крема и начать процедуру.
— Если это не укол, то впитаться через кожу хоть немного должно. Можно магической пылью посыпать и тот же эффект получить.
— Вопрос в том, есть ли толк от обезболивания ? Да, кожа станет более "рыхлой", образуются синячки и разрывы на слизистой, а больно будет все равно! Но боль-то терпимая, я думаю, реально потерпеть 20-30 минут при шугаринге болевые ощущения.
— Так я вам с инструкции и скопировала. 20-30 минут, это не намазал и приступил и не 5 минут подождал.
Хорошо, если есть другие зоны для работы, а если только бикини? Сидеть, полчаса ждать?
Вреда больше, чем помощи от этих кремов.
Приходят девочки первый раз. И нормально, говорят, больше боялись. И это я ещё неопытный мастер и делаю довольно долго.
— 10 мин — не 30 мин. Я работаю с этим кремом и все прекрасно! Слышала про такой супер гель.
— Прям, не соглашусь с эффектом плацебо, я не мастер, я клиент. Шугаринг глубокого бикини, я, конечно, без обезболивания, порог боли высокий, поэтому отношусь терпимо. А вот, например, кремом мне обезболивали бровки перед татуажем — вообще ничего не чувствуешь, обезболивали подмышку перед ботоксом — тоже боли нет, лицо перед биоревитализацией тоже кремом-анестетиком мазали. Не думаю, что я так себя убедила, что вообще проколов не чувствовала, так что средства есть и довольно-таки хорошие!
Крем держали не более 10-15 минут, по полчаса и более точно не ждала!
— Есть! Я более 5 лет делала депиляцию без обезболивающих средств, и каждый раз для меня был как пытка. Сейчас делаю только с эмлой (для меня она наиболее подходящая), даже подмышки, ибо их мне делать больнее даже, чем эпиляцию глубокого бикини.
— Это из-за того, что инъекции не на такую глубину делают, на которой находится корень волоса. Да и вырывать сосудисто-нервный пучок гораздо больнее, чем сделать микроинъекцию.
Подмышки ботоксом? И как вам эффект, нравится? На сколько хватает?
— Я делала татуаж и без обезболивания, я точно знаю, с чем я сравниваю. Уж уколы в лицо гораздо больнее, чем "драть" волосы. Не забывайте, что вводимые препараты тоже дают болевой эффект (особенно, если это витамины). Так что считаю что у кремов-анестетиков есть эффект и точно не плацебо.
— Инъекции мезотерапии делают на глубину до 6 мм. То есть до нижней границы дермы. Волосяные луковицы же в основном залегают чуть выше этого, примерно посередине плюс — минус. Так что тут глубина можно считать одинакова. Далее введение самого препарата, даже самого не болезненного, затрагивает нервные окончания. Поэтому однозначно сказать, что инъекции более или менее болезненные, чем эпиляция, нельзя.
— А на слизистую можно наносить, паста не скользит после геля?
— Да, наносить можно, не скользит. Наношу крем Эмла, делаю ноги, подмышки. В конце делаю бикини. Крем работает.
— А вот такое средство ТКТХ?
— Обезболивание кремом эмла работает не на всех, долгая экспозиция. Лидокаин берёт на слизистой, но на него и аллергия бывает. После тату, депиляции, дермапена (на всё пользовалась разными обезболивающими средствами), отлично сработала эта мазь. Если под пленкой, то 5-10 минут на ура.
— Я использую лайтдеп, кому домой даю, кто-то лежит у меня час. Пробовала и на себе, и на других разное время, только через час есть эффект. Недавно увидела в одной студии df skincaine gel, тут выше кидали картинку его, обещает обезболить за 15 минут, толку ноль. Некоторые приходят с эмлой и лидокаином.
— Кто пользовался таким Акриол Про? Он действует как эмла или нет? Брала эмлу, понравилось.
— Эмла выходит намного дороже моего анестетика. К нему нужно приспособиться. Потом упаковками брать будете.
— А как ваш анестетик называется? И где вы его покупаете (интернет, аптека )?
— Попробуйте мой анестетик, дешевле эмлы выходит в несколько раз. Эффект супер. Доктор намб.
— В плане? Если я выдержала по инструкции, что поменяется в следующий раз?
— Увеличить время экспозиции.
— А мне кажется, дело в криворуких мастерах. Я как-то изменила своему мастеру, пошла к незнакомой, я там рыдала даже на ногах до колен! Хотя это моя самая непробиваемая зона! Так что оттачивайте технику, и обезболивающие средства не нужны будут.
— На что только не идут девушки ради соответствия стандартам красоты. Жесть. Неужели гладкая писька того стоит? Можно же триммером практически под ноль волосы убрать, видимо, этого недостаточно для удовлетворения её мужика.
— Все дело в моде, желании соответствовать стандартам соц. идеальной группы. Утверждение — чтобы быть популярной, надо быть телочкой. Все "телочки" за собой ухаживают. Ухаживать за собой — делать шугаринг. Вывод "Все телочки делают шугаринг". Конечно, напрямую никто так не рассуждает — обычно все выглядит невинно и просто "Катька делает шугаринг." "У Катьки богатый поклонник". "Подцепила богатого потому, что Катька красивая." "Катька красивая, потому что ухоженная". "Ухаживать за собой — ходить в салон и там делать шугаринг". "Катька делает шугаринг". Круговорот мыслей замкнулся.
— Возможно. А вот хороший качественный массаж тела у опытного массажиста – и для здоровья, и для красоты фигуры полезен. Без обезболивания и синяков.
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Крем “Эмла”часто используется для купирования боли во время шугаринга. Особенно рекомендуется людям с низким болевым порогом и перед проведением процедуры впервые. Но так ли хорош препарат, и как его использовать правильно?
Некоторые девушки до сих пор пользуются бритвой, потому что боятся боли во время сахарной эпиляции. Но эта проблема давно решена. Чтобы снизить чувствительность кожи, можно использовать местное обезболивающее — мази, кремы, др.
Рассмотрим принцип действия локальной анестезии во время шугаринга на примере популярного крема “Эмла”.
Что такое крем Эмла: принцип действия и свойства препарата
Косметологи объясняют: кожа взрослого человека активно выполняет защитную функцию, но проникающая ее способность ослабляется. Она медленнее впитывает кремы либо принимает малую их часть. В то же время, слизистая эти средства “принимает” лучше (поэтому наружные обезболивающие препараты особенно эффективны для шугаринга глубокого бикини).
Тем не менее, крем “Эмла” является хорошей помощью при обработке любого участка кожи. Особенно в первые несколько сеансов, когда депиляция вызывает стрессовую реакцию кожи и, как следствие, раздражение, вросшие волоски, др.
Обезболивающий состав расслабляет мышцы, волоски удаляются легко, не обламываются, раздражения нет или оно минимально. Что же из себя представляет “Эмла”?
Что это такое
Это местное анестезирующее средство белого цвета, однородной структуры. Выпускается в тубах дозировкой 5×5 г; 1×30 г. Упакован в картонную коробочку, внутри которой обязательно находится инструкция по применению препарата.
Состав
Основные действующие вещества анестезирующего состава (на 1 г) — лидокаин (25 мг), прилокаин (25 мг). Лидокаин обладает мощным, но быстротечным эффектом. А прилокаин слабее, но действует дольше.
Вообще, почти все препараты для наружной анестезии производятся на основе лидокаина. И чтобы они купировали боль, лидокаина должно быть не менее 10%.
Большая концентрация лидокаина в “Эмла” (25%) обеспечивает максимальный обезболивающий эффект.
- макрогола глицерилгидроксистеарат (19 мг);
- карбоксиполиметилен (10 мг);
- натрия гидроксид (5,2 мг);
- вода очищенная (1 г).
Свойства препарата
Препарат выполняет функцию наружной анестезии кожи:
- при инъекциях, пункциях, катетеризации сосудов;
- при поверхностных хирургических вмешательствах;
- при проведении косметологических процедур, эпиляции (в том числе затрагивающей слизистую оболочку половых органов).
Принцип действия
Состав воздействует на поверхностные сосуды. За счет этого может наблюдаться временное покраснение или, наоборот, бледность кожи.
- через 1 час после нанесения обезболивает 2 мм 7 в глубину;
- через 2 часа после нанесения — 3 мм от поверхности кожи;
- через 5-10 минут после обработки слизистой наблюдается полная анестезия.
На степень анестезии влияет:
- доза препарата;
- время аппликации;
- толщина кожи (она разная на разных участках тела);
- наличие дерматологических заболеваний;
- др.
Возраст пациента (молодой, пожилой), цвет кожи никак не отражаются на эффективности воздействия препарата.
Побочные реакции
Перед использованием “Эмла” протестируйте состав, нанеся его небольшое количество на запястье. Результат оцените спустя 2 часа.
Обычно негативных эффектов состав не вызывает.
Но инструкция указывает, что после нанесения препарата может наблюдаться:
- бледность, покраснение, отечность;
- легкое жжение, зуд;
- редко — аллергия, геморрагическая сыпь, точечные кровоподтеки, в особо тяжелом случае — анафилактический шок.
В первом-втором случаях ничего предпринимать не нужно. Такую реакцию провоцирует сам механизм воздействия на кожу препарата.
Если же реакция на “Эмлу” вызвала у вас любые сомнения, немедленно удалите остатки крема салфеткой, промойте кожу проточной водой.
Выбираем обезболивающий крем, гель для процедуры шугаринга: применение крема или геля перед сахарной эпиляцией для обезболивания чувствительных зон
Обезболивающие средства для шугаринга: анестетики для сахарной эпиляции
Противопоказания к применению крема Эмла при шугаринге
“Эмла” — медицинский препарат и поэтому имеет противопоказания:
- повышенная чувствительность к любому компоненту;
- повышенное количество (больше 1 %) количество метгемоглобина в крови;
- прием препаратов для нормализации сердечного ритма;
- дефицит глюкозо-6-фосфатдегидрогеназы.
Беременным и кормящим женщинам стоит использовать крем с осторожностью. Лидокаин и прилокаин проникают через плацентарный барьер и могут абсорбироваться в тканях плода. Хотя точных данных об отрицательных воздействиях на плод или младенца нет.
Плюсы и минусы использования крема Эмла для шугаринга
Чтобы понять, насколько хорош крем, мало ознакомиться с информацией производителей. Читайте отзывы тех, кто уже испробовал этот состав.
Преимущества использования крема “Эмла”:
- отсутствие запаха;
- легкое нанесение;
- равномерное распределение;
- большой срок годности — 3 года (хранится при температуре до 25 градусов, после вскрытия хранить тюбик не рекомендуется);
- минимальные противопоказания.
- высокая цена — от 1 600 рублей за 5 тюбиков по 5 грамм, от 1 700 рублей за одну тубу 30 г;
- большой расход — одного 5-граммового тюбика хватает на обработку площади размером с ладонь, поскольку его нужно наносить толстым слоем;
- приходится долго ждать, пока препарат подействует;
- может не подействовать либо подействовать слабо — случается крайне редко, зависит от индивидуальных особенностей организма;
- может спровоцировать кровоподтеки, синяки;
- не рекомендуется к повторному применению до заживления эпидермиса, то есть в течение одной-двух недель после проведения депиляции.
Насколько эффективен крем Эмла: продолжительность действия?
К минусам крема относят длительное ожидание его действия. Но в большинстве случаев эффект того стоит.
Итак, крем наносят на кожу на 1-2 часа. После снятия окклюзионной повязки препарат продолжает свое действие еще 2 часа.
Что касается анестезии в области слизистой оболочки половых органов, боль купируется уже спустя 5-10 минут. Продолжительность анестезии составляет в среднем 15-20 минут (в зависимости от индивидуальных особенностей, у некоторых людей она составляет 5-45 минут.
Что касается шугаринга бикини, глубокого бикини, препарат наносят толстым слоем:
- мужчинам
из расчета 1 г на 10 см кв; время аппликации 15 минут; - женщинам
из расчета 1-2 г на 10 см кв; время аппликации 60 минут.
Опции темы
Слышала, что такие есть. Собственно говоря, интересует все, что с ними связано:
действительно ли хорошо обезболивают?
если их несколько разных, то какой предпочесть?
продаются в аптеках или в лавочках с косметикой?
Ну и вообще я буду очень признательна за любую информацию на эту тему. А то с выдиранием волос вечная проблема
да ледокаин купить в аптеке и все.
Я читала отзывы про ледокаин, говорят, он очень плохо помогает.
Первое время да, очень больно. Когда начинала пользоваться эпилятором, то чуть не плакала.
Но где-то через пару лет кожа попривыкла. Сейчас неприятно, но не больно уже. Вполне спокойно эпилируюсь.
Ну, у всех разная чувствительность кожи. Я эпилятором пользуюсь больше 10 лет, а привыкнуть так и не смогла. Очень больно. Поэтому и подумываю про кремы.
Лидокаин (у меня в спрее был) — эффекта ноль. Точнее, эффект только поверхностный и очень-очень слабый. Но волосы ведь с корнем вырываются, а он (лидокаин) до луковиц не доходит. Больно все равно.
Большие "специалисты" (подруга) порываются вколоть куда надо.. но тоже страшновато.. даже если знаешь куда и как колоть.
мохноногая лошадка
эпилятором пользуюсь больше 10 лет, а привыкнуть так и не смогла. Очень больно.
а на воск перейти не хотите? горячий пленочный — самое оно и раздражения меньше
А что, воском разве не больно? Я слышала, что это примерно так же больно, как эпилятор.
Насколько я знаю, в готовые воски входят какие-то обезболивающие составляющие.
Вообще, воском реально лучше. И раздражения меньше.
лидокаин действует на слизистой, на ногах толку от него ноль
Эмла 5 % крем. на один час на эпилируемую область и обязательно! под пленку. фефект обезболивания еще час- полтора
без пленки элма тоже действует, но нужно больше часа выдерживать
в упаковке 5 тюбиков по 5 грамм стоит в районе 500 — 600 руб
мне помогает, моим знакомым помогает, главное не экономить, а нормально намазать и вся процедура проходит безболезненно
Нет, разница огромная. Я раньше тоже эпилятор юзала, потом подруга всучила в руки воск. Приноровиться надо конечно в процессе, но болевые ощущения в разы меньше и раздражения практически нет
А где эта Эмла продается? В обычных аптеках или в каких-то других местах?
Я правильно поняла, что вы не в салоне делаете эпиляцию, а дома? И как это все происходит? Воск надо согреть, потом на ноги намазать и что-то приложить? Я слышала про полоски какие-то. Сорри, я, наверное, идиотские вопросы задаю. Просто ни разу не пробовала и даже не представляю, как это все делается.
Эмла продается в аптеке, около 550 р. стоит 10 тюбиков, может поменьше в пачке.
В салоне не делаю, как-то не по себе становится от мысли что какая-то тетка будет во мне ковыряться
. Тут целая ветка есть об этом, бывают разные виды восков: пленочные, обычные под полоски, воск-смола и еще много чего. Я делаю пленочным — разогревать можно в специальной бане (выглядит как стерилизатор для детских бутылочек), а можно просто на водяной. Полоски не нужны, он затвердевает и отдирается одним махом
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Эмла продается в аптеке, около 550 р. стоит 10 тюбиков, может поменьше в пачке.
если б 10
5 и усе
мохноногая лошадка
да в обычных аптеках
А пленочный воск где продается? И как понять, до какой степени его греть? Обжечься ведь можно легко, как я понимаю.
Еще про Эмлу вопрос: сколько ее мазать, чтобы подействовало? Тюбик на ногу, полтюбика?
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мохноногая лошадка
у меня получается полтора тюбика на две ноги, если экономить, то один тюбик, но тада больновасто
обезболивающая эмла
Девочки, ведь очень просто проверить: нужно еще намазать или нет — попробуйте через 30 мин после нанесения ЭМЛЫ дернуть волоски пинцетом в нужном "месте", если больно просто подождите еще мин. 20, повторите дерганье, всеравно больно — намажтесь повторно! Элма реально обезболивает. Просто всем нужно разное время и количество.
а перед эпиляцией нужно сам крем смывать?? Или нанести и потом сразу удалять волоски?
У меня вот с бикини проблема, ноги и даже подмышки — привыкла уже. Кстати, лично для меня самое главное — не запускать рост волос. Пока редкие и тонкие совсем не больно, а если забить, то через месяц этот "меховой слой" очень больно удалять.
Но бикини никак не могу депилятором, да и полосками тоже. А в салон как-то неудобно идти. От бритья раздражение, и не эстетично через день уже.
Хороший крем
Правда полчаса пришлось ждать, но у других кремов примерно такие же сроки.
Оксанке. Не согласна по поводу Лайт депа. Лучше вместо него использовать обезболивающую мазь Эмла. Во-первых, лайт деп – это косметический препарат, а Эмла – фармацевтический. Разницу улавливаете? Во-вторых, производится где-то в Питере никому особо не известной компанией. Крем Эмла выпускается в Швеции известной международной фармацевтической компанией, которая, к сведению, выпускает серьезные лекарства по кардиологии и т.д. В-третьих, широкая известность крема Эмла – отзывы на многих форумах, множество информации на медицинских сайтах. Единственный довод в пользу Лайт Депа – более низкая цена. Но разве 100 рублей – это принципиально в данном случае?!
ok-01, не соглашусь с Вами. Лайт-деп — очень неплохой крем. Ничем не хуже Эмлы. И значительно дешевле.
Но ни одни из кремов не сравнится с корейским кремом DR Numb. С ним не то, что эпиляцию, с ним голову можно отпиливать 
Я все анестетики на себе тестирую И не для эпиляции какой, а при мезо на лице
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